Red Bugs, anybody dealt with them?

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Well, it is offical. For some reason I have them. Saw them before lights out. I have no idea how they got in my tank but I saw them on 2 acros. :mad2: :boo: :eek: :eek: :sick: :grrr:

Sure weren't there a few weeks ago. Only put in a zoa frag from a LFS several weeks ago.

So has anybody successful dealt with them around Atlanta?
 
wow, I really wish you could edit posts...

anyway, I don't know anything about any red bugs. Not that I'll be able to provide you any valuable help on the solution, if you could elucidate me further as to what they are, I'd appreciate it! :D
 
Wow Doug, this sucks... I say you give me that wonderful neon green mystery softie to hold on to to make sure nothing eats him!!! :D J/K

Seriously, You can have any tank that I have as a QT, I will bring over some Procoral cure to kill them off the corals themself and then put them in a QT till they die off in the tank. I have some extra T-5's that I am not using right now that you can use on a QT tank to make sure the Acros of yours get light.

Just let me know what I can do.
 
JustOneMoreTank just went through the process of nuking his tank with some success. I think he had quite a bit of invert die off though.
 
Oh ya, for siege over there:

Tegastes acroporanus</em>, also known as the red acro bug for the red coloration on its body and its prey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acropora"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Acropora</span></a></em>, are [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copepod"><span style="color: #0000ff;">copepods</span></a> in the family [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tegastidae&action=edit"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Tegastidae</span></a>. They are [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism"><span style="color: #0000ff;">parasitic</span></a> on the hard [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral"><span style="color: #0000ff;">coral</span></a> reef building corals in the genus [I]Acropora</em>, and feed on these corals exclusively. Though it has been found on all types of [I]Acropora</em>, it seems to be less predominant on [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species"><span style="color: #0000ff;">species</span></a> with large, &#8220;hairy&#8221; [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyp"><span style="color: #0000ff;">polyps</span></a> such as the species [I]A. millepora</em>. Being a [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copepod"><span style="color: #0000ff;">copepod</span></a>, they are very small, and many times can be hard to see with the naked eye. However, their existence on a suspected affected [I]Acropora</em> can be determined either by looking for the typical symptoms of [I]T. acroporanus</em> or by shining a flashlight on the suspected [I]Acropora</em> and looking for tiny fluorescent specks, caused by the light bouncing off the red [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigment"><span style="color: #0000ff;">pigment</span></a> in their bodies.
When on an [I]Acropora</em> they remain, for the most part, stationary and will spend most of their time consuming the tissue of the acropora. They are very difficult to dislodge once stationary, using their appendages to latch onto the [I]Acropora</em> and are not removable even by suction or strong water movement, which may in turn, damage the [I]Acropora</em>. A small number will leave a coral if the coral is disturbed and will swim in the [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagic_zone"><span style="color: #0000ff;">water column</span></a>, looking for another host.
First reports of this aquatic [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pest_%28animal%29"><span style="color: #0000ff;">pest</span></a> came in the early 2000s and the infestation sped quickly throughout the [IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_aquarium"><span style="color: #0000ff;">marine keeping hobby</span></a> around the world with the popularity of coral fragment trading. Due to the potential threat of this parasitic copepod to the hobby, many different treatments have been tried and testing through the years and it is now possible to stop or at least slow the infestation of [I]T. acroporanus</em>.
While [I]Tegastes acroporanus</em> or the red acro bug is a parasite on [I]Acropora</em> corals, it does not always kill them. The overall health of the host prior to infestation, the overall health of the aquarium system, and the degree of colonization will contribute to whether or not an affected [I]Acropora</em> can withstand the infestation
There are several possible signs of an infestation of red acro bugs:
<ul>
<li>reduced extension of polyps and/or the coral tissue</li>
<li>change in coloration, typically involving a loss of colored pigments from tips and branches, and a change to a more uniform brown color</li>
<li>reduced or stalled growth rates</li>
<li>loss of tissue pigmentation including the loss of zooxanthellae pigmentation resulting in a bleached appearance</li>
<li>local or colony-wide tissue loss, possibly as a result of colonization stress rather than from direct consumption of tissue by predation</li>
<li>death of the colony</li>
</ul>From: Wikipedia
 
Knowing that red bugs normally stay on the corals and only live on Acros (and really cool neon green softies), I think if you gently remove the acros, dip them and then QT them, it should eleminate most of the infestation. A few repeted treatments might be needed.

I think nuking your tank is almost a last resort!
 
Xyzpdq: Thanks a lot for that reference!

May I add to your excellent advice, and suggest that it might be best even after dipping to isolate the coral for as long as possible in a hospital tank, in order to allow any other little buggers still in the tank to die off first.
 
I think that is what I said:
I will bring over some Procoral cure to kill them off the corals themself and then put them in a QT till they die off in the tank

;)
 
<span style="color: black;">Good luck with the Procoral Cure. One of my corals as been infested with red bugs for a couple months now. I've heard the only thing that works on them is Interceptor. Please let me know if you have success with Procoral. That would be somewhat easier to get my hands on.</span>
 
use to have them, a long time ago....used interceptor and it got rid of them, havnt seen them since. Interceptor is a hearworm medicine for dogs and it will kill most if not all pods, crabs and other crustaceans so its best to do a hospital tank, if you dont have the means of doing that, your display will work, so try to get all the crabs out you want to keep. If you want more details check out this site:

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Ya interceptor is hard to come by. Anyone got a dog with heartworm?!? (Wink Wink Hint Hint!!!)

According to the gentleman at the frag meeting in Feb, Procoral cure works for red bugs. It is iodine based (or appears to be) as is Lugol's solution and Reef Dip by Seachem.

Milbemycin oxime, </em>Interceptor, is known to work but has to be carried out in a QT tank (Unless you are going for the nuke approach) and from what I understand is harsher on the coral. I do not know I am not a coral...

I guess this would be a good group project to see what works!

Edit: Darn Lee, you beat me too it!!!!!
 
:p

It had no bad reactions to my corals. I had done the treatment in my tank, granted my tank at the time was a 10g so 1 tab worked great for me. Once its added to the tank within hours you can see the red bugs falling off the corals....its pretty neat ;) I cant comment on the procoral cure cuz I've never personally used it, tho I'ld love to try it out, who sells that btw?
 
The corals that I'll need to treat are in a 10g at the moment but I would hate to nuke that tank. I would prefer to QT but I'll need to pick up another 10g for that. I'll also need to figure out something when it comes to lights.
 
honestly it didnt kill all my pods, I did however take out as many crabs as I could. If you want to go the route of getting a QT tank, I have a 5.5g you could borrow if you cant find anything.
 
I have two sets of mini-PC lights, either one of which would possibly be at least adequate in and of itself, and I could loan you both at least short-term, if need be.

Plus, I am apparently nearby. If I can help, just PM me here; the only "messenger" I really use is IRC.
 
Sounds good. I'll let you get with you guys to borrow some equipment as soon as I get my hands on some interceptor tablets.
 
When you are receiving frags setting up a tank, redbugs are expected unless you inspect with a magnifying glass, Interceptor will allow for some of your pods to make it. I have done 3 treatments in 4 years, shrimp survive, emerald crabs can survive, remove hermits though. Remove all the inverts you can, snails and starfish have no troubles, for a 10 gal, you need an 1/8 of a tablet and let it stay in for 12 hours at least. After 12 hours add carbon and do a water change of 2 gallons, repeat the process in 4-7 days, that is what has worked for me in the past. many people use larger doses, it is not the amount but the duration that the chemical stays in the water that helps kill them. I know of people who have do 10X the amount for a treatment with no ill effects. I have never lost anything except emerald crabs.
 
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