salt mixing question

Never used it but here is what I have gathered from all the posts I have read about it.

1. I think it is a good solid reef salt mix. Better than the plain salts but not hands down better than other reef salts.
2. As with any salt or additive it will be a problem if not stored properly. I would expect any salt mix to preform poorly if allowed to absorb moisture.
3. I believe many blame the salt for tank problems caused by their bad practices.
4. I think it is a "Ford /Chevy" thing. Or maybe like "who can write there name in the snow with a bigger pencil"

Just my nickel. (Inflation increased it from 2 cents)
 
Ripped Tide;816306 wrote: What mistakes have been made using the salt?
Has the salt been the problem or the scapegoat.

Are all bad experiences credible?

I know that you are a very smart man and consider many different angles. I was VERY scared to use salinity my first time. All the horror stories out there.... To my pleasent suprise, a few chemical balancing issues have since stabilized and things are consistent.

If I could just destroy the bubble algae, I'd be a happy camper.
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Who knows with varying instructions?:eek:
I thought you were a smart man until you drew that conclusion of me:)
I do like to try to understand and discuss which usually only annoys those who can't explain .

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rdnelson99;816309 wrote: Never used it but here is what I have gathered from all the posts I have read about it.

1. I think it is a good solid reef salt mix. Better than the plain salts but not hands down better than other reef salts.
2. As with any salt or additive it will be a problem if not stored properly. I would expect any salt mix to preform poorly if allowed to absorb moisture.
3. I believe many blame the salt for tank problems caused by their bad practices.
4. I think it is a "Ford /Chevy" thing. Or maybe like "who can write there name in the snow with a bigger pencil"

Just my nickel. (Inflation increased it from 2 cents)
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Agreed So if you decided to use it which mixing instructions would you use?
 
I have used Salinity for about 1 year. I really like it and seems to keep numbers stable. I usually make 50 gallons per batch in a 55 gallon drum and I have a mag 7 in the drum with about 6 feet of 3/4 hose hooked on it. I fill my drum with water and it has a heater in the drum set on 72 . I mix in my salt usually 1/2 cup per gal then ck my salinity and usually keep it between 1.024- 1.026. I just let it mix for few hours then turn off pump and then usually the next day I turn on couple hours and I have a plastic oar I stick in and stir a couple times and check the salinity to make sure it's still in range and use with no issues. It is pretty clear the next day no cloudy issues. It may take me a couple weeks to totally use up and I have checked my ph,alk,and salinity with very little changes in 2 weeks and I even filled a 5 gal pail and let it sit for a month and it was very close also. I usually just turn the pump on couple times a week for hour to mix and then turn off. Then when I am ready let mix for few mins and use . I have read to not over mix it so I try and get it mixed and then just mix as needed.
I also keep 50 gallons of ro / di in case I need to make a quick batch or sometimes after a day of mix of mixing the salinity will be a little higher so I adj.
 
grouper therapy;816313 wrote:
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Agreed So if you decided to use it which mixing instructions would you use?
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The same I use now. One time mix for an hour and maybe the next time 4 days. I really don't think it matters as long as it is fully des pled. The cloudiness would concern me no matter what the companies chemist say.

Sometimes people over think things in my opinion. I break a lot of the "Rules". Not all have bitten me. Those that have, I have learned from.
 
containerman1;816332 wrote: I have used Salinity for about 1 year. I really like it and seems to keep numbers stable. I usually make 50 gallons per batch in a 55 gallon drum and I have a mag 7 in the drum with about 6 feet of 3/4 hose hooked on it. I fill my drum with water and it has a heater in the drum set on 72 . I mix in my salt usually 1/2 cup per gal then ck my salinity and usually keep it between 1.024- 1.026. I just let it mix for few hours then turn off pump and then usually the next day I turn on couple hours and I have a plastic oar I stick in and stir a couple times and check the salinity to make sure it's still in range and use with no issues. It is pretty clear the next day no cloudy issues. It may take me a couple weeks to totally use up and I have checked my ph,alk,and salinity with very little changes in 2 weeks and I even filled a 5 gal pail and let it sit for a month and it was very close also. I usually just turn the pump on couple times a week for hour to mix and then turn off. Then when I am ready let mix for few mins and use . I have read to not over mix it so I try and get it mixed and then just mix as needed.
I also keep 50 gallons of ro / di in case I need to make a quick batch or sometimes after a day of mix of mixing the salinity will be a little higher so I adj.
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Have you checked the alk after sitting a few days?
 
Seth The Wine Guy;816090 wrote: Don't know about you...
I bet he is like me and we turn off the engine when it's in there.
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I never parked a car in my garage, but I did park my riding lawn mower in it. My living room was above the garage. I never ran the mower longer than it took to park it. I stopped parking it in the garage when the smell of gasoline lingered in the house for 3-5 days on multiple occasions.
No offense, but this is a pretty smart mouthed comment.
When gasoline was leaded with tetraethyllead, there were approximately 80+% more cases of lead poisoning than there are today according to studies by the EPA. The phaseout of lead in gas began in 1976 and ended in 1986. Before the 1976 ban of leaded gasoline the average blood lead level was 16 ug/dL... by 1991 the average blood lead levels decreased to 3 ug/dL. The EPA defines a blood lead levels above 10 ug/dL to be elevated blood lead level in adults, and lead poisoning in children. That concentration in a child's body can lead to mental retardation, various Health problems, and death. It is widely excepted by me and my other lead abatement colleagues that leaded gasoline was the single greatest cause of lead poisoning around the world. In fact the 1976 ban of lead in gasoline led to the 1978 complete ban of lead in all products as we know today.
So my point is that if the components in gasoline have the ability to find its way into your body, it will find a way into your aquarium simply by parking it in your garage.
 
winkkle;815865 wrote: Can you over mix salt? I have been mixing for about 48hrs because ive been too busy to bottle it. Now there is a some brownish film on the top and around the container. Im thinking its just algae but should i scrap this water and start new water or will this still be ok?
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winkkle;815870 wrote: Nah red sea pro. I thought ive read about things precipitating out if u continually mix it but i dont know.
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Some guy named RedSeaKev from another forum, whom I assume represents red sea ,recommends not mixing for more than 4 hrs before using. Oddly enough I could not find any instructions on their website. You would think that if the mixing time was that important it would be on the package.
You don't use Salinity so their instructionssss are irrelevant to your question.
 
Rhyerob;816383 wrote:
No offense, but this is a pretty smart mouthed comment.
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LOL That's because it was meant to be!
All this reinforces the fact that person to person variables mean everything in results reported. I made a conscious decision to not put things like mowers, gasoline cans, or other hazardous materials under the same roof I live and sleep in. I didn't need a study to tell me those things wafting into my home might not be a good idea. I purposely leave my garage doors open for a half hour or so after parking them to mitigate any residual emissions being released from the vehicle. I try to be proactive, not reactive and only take action after my living room couch smells like it was in a mechanics lounge.

I wonder where the air is cleaner? In my garage where the vehicles have such tightly sealed engine compartments that it only requires oil changes every 15k miles. Where there is no furnace, water heater, or hazardous materials. Where daily, 8'x10' doors open on multiple times and remain open for several minutes, and even when the doors are closed, they're far from tightly sealed around the sides and leak outside air.
OR
Inside the rest of my house (That's very tightly built) where there are cleaning supplies used in kitchens and bathrooms. Where fireplaces burn wood, gas burners cook food, and water heaters and furnaces operate?

It's a common occurrence the air inside our homes is more polluted then the air outside our homes...

Some would argue I should live and sleep in my garage because it's safer. THAT's why I made the comment I did. Because, the insinuation made that mixing salt in a garage was worse than indoors was so utterly ridiculous as it relates to MY home. But, I guess it wouldn't be a good idea for those storing things like leaded gasoline, lawnmowers, and Round Up sprayers in their house/garage not to mix there. (Especially those who work on their motorcycles or cars and fire them up in the garage)
 
Seth The Wine Guy;816430 wrote: LOL That's because it was meant to be!
All this reinforces the fact that person to person variables mean everything in results reported. I made a conscious decision to not put things like mowers, gasoline cans, or other hazardous materials under the same roof I live and sleep in. I didn't need a study to tell me those things wafting into my home might not be a good idea. I purposely leave my garage doors open for a half hour or so after parking them to mitigate any residual emissions being released from the vehicle. I try to be proactive, not reactive and only take action after my living room couch smells like it was in a mechanics lounge.

I wonder where the air is cleaner? In my garage where the vehicles have such tightly sealed engine compartments that it only requires oil changes every 15k miles. Where there is no furnace, water heater, or hazardous materials. Where daily, 8'x10' doors open on multiple times and remain open for several minutes, and even when the doors are closed, they're far from tightly sealed around the sides and leak outside air.
OR
Inside the rest of my house (That's very tightly built) where there are cleaning supplies used in kitchens and bathrooms. Where fireplaces burn wood, gas burners cook food, and water heaters and furnaces operate? <span style="color: Red">These are actually the most common places for pollutants to leave the house and are sometimes the best means for air exchange in a tightly built home provided that they are properly installed. Fireplaces draw a tremendous amount of air out of the home as well as furnaces and gas water heaters especially when burning(heat rises incase you wanted to know why). Not sure in your home but we run the exhaust fan when we cook which draws a lot of air.I also run the fart fan but I'm sure you do not need to.
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It's a common occurrence the air inside our homes is more polluted then the air outside our homes...

Some would argue I should live and sleep in my garage because it's safer. THAT's why I made the comment I did. Because, the insinuation made that mixing salt in a garage was worse than indoors was so utterly ridiculous as it relates to MY home. But, I guess it wouldn't be a good idea for those storing things like leaded gasoline, lawnmowers, and Round Up sprayers in their house/garage not to mix there. (Especially those who work on their motorcycles or cars and fire them up in the garage)
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That's a lengthy explanation for someone who doesn't want to no why:shades:. I would have thought you would have just trusted the car salesman that your car is the only one in the world that emits no emissions. Come to think of it I don't think I have ever smelt exhaust fumes in any garage:roll:
 
grouper therapy;816391 wrote: Some guy named RedSeaKev from another forum, whom I assume represents red sea ,recommends not mixing for more than 4 hrs before using. Oddly enough I could not find any instructions on their website. You would think that if the mixing time was that important it would be on the package.
You don't use Salinity so their instructionssss are irrelevant to your question.
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I have a RSCP bucket in the back of my truck. When I get a chance, I'll look for instructions for mixing.
 
grouper therapy;816344 wrote: Have you checked the alk after sitting a few days?
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It did drop a little but it was still in range( dropped .5) in couple weeks
Went from 8.7 to 8.2
 
Ripped Tide;816487 wrote: There are no mixing instructions on the bucket of RSCP.
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Strange you would think that a manufacturer would at least place specialized instructions for their specialized salt on the container.
 
The only thing that remotely resembles instructions are the ratios of salt(in grams) to water.
 
From the seachem meeting I recall:

Someone asked about the cloudiness and precipitation with salinity and Jim said that they were workin on it and winked.... Well, I haven't had any precipitation from salinity since I have used it. I had precipitation when using RSCP if I let it mix for 12 hrs or more.
 
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