Bummed over this fish

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The clowns we won at the BBQ had adjusted well from what iv seen and they have eaten very well , no signs of sickness but yesterday the female started lieing down in a clam shell , she is not dead but I'm not kidding myself she's on the way out and there is nothing more we can do.
Her male won't leave her side and my main fear now is will I loos,him once she goes.
My water parameters are
1.025 salinity , ph 8.2, 80.7degrees, nitrates and nitrites show zero , phosphate .05 , cal 430 ,mag 1320. Dkh 9 . Nothing has changed and all other inhabitants look healthy and chipper
I'm not blaming anything or myself , but I just wish there was something I could do.
I turned off the pwr head and dropped some mysis on her and she ate one little piece without ever getting off of her side.
Would it be better for the mate to remove her now ? Qt just seems like a waste of time , I don't give her an hour or 2 , but don't want to be to pre mature.

I guess some creatures cant handle captivity
 
I went ahead and separated the male to the display in hopes of him making it.
Now I just have to leave or I'll sit here watching an wishing I could do more.
 
Man, sorry to hear about that, it sucks to lose fish.

Let me get this straight you took a fish that was exposed to a half died fish out of the QT tank and put it in your display? Do you know what caused the first one to die?
 
It's not dead , but if I had to guess I'd say its respiratory from how she's laying down but no ammonia is present so I'm at a loss , she still has good color and was eating until yesterday evening.
I did the switch with the male because I don't want it in with her if / when she does die. he seems really attached to her , continues rubbing and bumping her so idk.
Probably was a bad idea moving him as well but its doen now .
The little male would not eat either unless I put it on top of his head wile beside her because he would not leave her side , but now is eating again normally .
 
I hope everything will be Ok with the male, it sucks to be excited and something like this happens.
Sounds like she got stressed by something. Keep an eye on her as long as you can. Do a little research into Brookenylla- it's a parasite that shows up when fish get stressed ( not saying that this is the cause but it may show up now that she is weakened-keep an eye an the male as well) apparently there were a lot of cases this year .
Oh there is a possible that that the male , if kept alone for a while, will change into a female.
 
I have some medicated food if you want some. Frozen mixture with Garlic and Metro. LMK
 
I believe I had Brooklynella a few months ago, bad stuff. I had to leave my tank fish less for several weeks.
 
I have been giving metro n focus since day one just as precaution.
The female has hung on thus far and is no longer gasping for breath nor face planting the tank bottom , eating has returned to normal and so now I'm really just hoping for the best , I really have been expecting her dead each time I come in the room but today she was up and about .
 
Tbub1221;890874 wrote: I have been giving metro n focus since day one just as precaution.
The female has hung on thus far and is no longer gasping for breath nor face planting the tank bottom , eating has returned to normal and so now I'm really just hoping for the best , I really have been expecting her dead each time I come in the room but today she was up and about .
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Great News :up:
 
Tbub1221;890182 wrote:

I guess some creatures cant handle captivity
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Clowns... if they're "designer" clowns, they were hatched in captivity - and likely from several generations of same.

Other than laboured breathing, are there any other symptoms?

Metronidazole doesn't treat Brooklynella *if* that is what it is... which is possible but not certain.

Pictures would be helpful and a description of any visible symptoms.

Jenn
 
JennM;890896 wrote: Clowns... if they're "designer" clowns, they were hatched in captivity - and likely from several generations of same.

Other than laboured breathing, are there any other symptoms?

Metronidazole doesn't treat Brooklynella *if* that is what it is... which is possible but not certain.

Pictures would be helpful and a description of any visible symptoms.

Jenn
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No jenn there aren't any physical symptoms whatsoever.
I have been using metro because iv had bad luck with fish getting a few spots when first introduced , and a few just didn't make it , so its been more of just a precaution to not loos these fish over stress ich but iv seen none of it so I'm no longer doing the meds but every other day a single dose. By the weeks end if they look good I'll stop it all.

She was lying down on the tank bottom either completely on her side or partially upside down with the tail vertical , I'd convinced myself it was over but she seems ok now its very strange.
Could have possibly over fed by accident or could it have been a digestive blockage maybe idk , I'm at a loss and just grateful she's still with us.
 
She is still with us , iv about decided after looking in to what jenn said about multiple generations for designer clowns , I think she is just going to do some strange thing that iv just not seen and just go with it so long as she keeps eating and swimming I'm happy .
 
I can't stress enough, the value of quarantining new specimens. If she turns out to be sick, she's exposed everything in your display to whatever she has. In quarantine, it can be dealt with, with minimal muss, fuss and no risk to your other creatures.

It's not unusual for juvenile clowns to sleep lying down on the floor of the tank (in a group if there are many), first time I ever saw that I thought there was a little Jonestown massacre going on...

It's also not unusual for clowns to sleep vertically in a corner of the tank.

However these behaviors are not typical during the daytime.

With the amount of line-breeding that's being done these days to get weird colour morphs, I almost wonder if it has resulted in some mental defects in some individuals? That could explain your clown's behaviour. You mess with Mother Nature enough, there's bound to be some complications.

Jenn
 
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Update on my failure. Yesterday evening she got weird again and I witnessed her jump out of the water and bang her head on the lid 3-4 times she was alive before lights out but this am early she was dead and the male was asleep on her.
Although I still never noticed any other symptoms from her other than the labored breathing the male had what appears to be mucous in small patches and had a hand full of tiny spots .
He died this afternoon.
I am thinking Broklynella possibly but there is no certainties.
I wish I had not gotten them , if someone else had maybe they would have made it.
Im rather turned off of clowns now and plan to just watch my coral grow they are a little harder for me to kill it seems.
 
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