Ocellaris clown hosting something weird?

[dnd091303]

I've got a patch of cyano growing at the front of my tank on the sand, I think my clownfish has began hosting it. The clownfish has moved from where it usually sleeps and spends the Better part of the day and night Lon top of and swimming near the cyano. Has anyone else ever witnessed this?

 

[indecloudzua]

Mine host the return nozzle and mag cleaner.

 

[jdavid]

Mine are hosted by</em> anemones. Darn!

 

[super]

I have a pair hosting a clump of hair algae.

 

[stacy22]

Clownfish do not host algae, powerheads, corals, anemones, etc. They can host parasites though.

 

[indecloudzua]

Okay. I'll rephrase. My return nozzle and mag cleaner are hosting my clowns

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[stacy22]

indecloudzua;932080 wrote: Okay. I'll rephrase. My return nozzle and mag cleaner are hosting my clowns

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Thank you! :up:

I'm a science teacher. It's a "thing'.

 

[curtismaximus]

stacy22;932081 wrote: Thank you! :up:

I'm a science teacher. It's a "thing'.

So what do we call the action of the clownfish?
I understand that anemones host but what do we call what the clowfish are doing?

 

[jdavid]

Curtismaximus;932092 wrote: So what do we call the action of the clownfish?
I understand that anemones host but what do we call what the clowfish are doing?

The scientific term is snuggling.

 

[stacy22]

The clownfish is being hosted by________.

 

[curtismaximus]

stacy22;932104 wrote: The clownfish is being hosted by________.

An anemone, i get it! What do we call the action of a clowfish when they pick a specific spot, nem, coral, place in the tank, and stay there. The fish will spend the majority of the day and all of the night in this spot and defend this territory.

Is there a name for this in science or is it just a clowfish / anemone fish "behavior"?

 

[mikesmith34]

stacy22;932081 wrote: Thank you! :up:

I'm a science teacher. It's a "thing'.

!!+1 science is a wonderous thing. I'm a huge Dawkins fan.

Edit:

Curtismaximus;932106 wrote: An anemone, i get it! What do we call the action of a clowfish when they pick a specific spot, nem, coral, place in the tank, and stay there. The fish will spend the majority of the day and all of the night in this spot and defend this territory.

Is there a name for this in science or is it just a clowfish / anemone fish "behavior"?

Territorial behavior ? That would be my answer on the test

 

[jennm]

"My clownfish have chosen X as a host" also works. Since the cyano probably didn't invite the clowns (nor did the return nozzle or the powerhead....)

Since we're splitting hairs...

I'm right there with you, Stacy!

Jenn

 

[curtismaximus]

Hey I get it, I host a party at my house, not my guests.

I just wondered if we had a name for what the fish are doing?

Soliciting?

To me its kind of a chicken and egg paradox. A nem doesn't move to the fish to "host" them. A fish must go to the nem. You can't have one without the other. To me hosting is just the best way to describe the action of the fish behavior.

 

[jennm]

You don't move your house to host the party either

Unless it's on wheels, and then we can cue up a, "You might be a redneck" joke...

:lol:

 

[curtismaximus]

Would this be considered a symbolic relationship?

 

[y-not]

Loitering</em>?? :tongue:
</em>

 

[stacy22]

Curtismaximus;932141 wrote: Would this be considered a symbolic relationship?

Yes, it's one of the three types of symbiosis:

1) commensalistic- one organism benefits (clownfish) and the other is basically unaffected (anemone- there is some debate on whether the anemone benefits)

2) mutualistic- both organisms benefit, ie. cleaner wrasse/shrimp and the fish they clean

3) parasitic- one organism benefits (Cryptocaryon</em>) and the other is harmed (fish)


"Symbiosis" is the general term that means two organisms living in/on the other in close association.

 

[curtismaximus]

stacy22;932294 wrote: Yes, it's one of the three types of symbiosis:

1) commensalistic- one organism benefits (clownfish) and the other is basically unaffected (anemone- there is some debate on whether the anemone benefits)

2) mutualistic- both organisms benefit, ie. cleaner wrasse/shrimp and the fish they clean

3) parasitic- one organism benefits (Cryptocaryon</em>) and the other is harmed (fish)


"Symbiosis" is the general term that means two organisms living in/on the other in close association.

Ok great, I agree. So by definition, you would also agree that it takes both organisms to form this symbiotic relationship. So in needing both parties to be present to have this relationship, ie hosting, you are describing both the nem and the clownfish.

So here in lies our problem.

If "hosting" just described the nem, then the nem would be hosting even without the presence of the fish. Which you and I both know is incorrect. So if hosting is describing the relationship between the two, it should not be allowed to describe one or the other.

Am I wrong in this?

 

[declanisadog]

Who's on first?