Ok... it serious! I need help! Pls dont ignore

Rskillz;889745 wrote: Also, sorry for the rants. But on-topic, sometimes fish just die. Especially wrasses. Sometimes no one is to blame. It happens. Some fish acclimate well to captivity, some don't. I wouldn't blame anyone, sounds like your tank and other fish are doing well, so it's likely just bad luck. Sorry to hear about it, Wrasses are amazing fish. Don't beat yourself up too bad.
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Like i said i never wanted to say where i got it from. now i wish i hadnt. that was never the point of my posts. The store it came from is irrelevant
 
really? the fish store stated on their own thread that they do not QT most stuff......and all of a sudden there are numerous threads about CORALS dying, and fish dying........this has nothing to to do with me........read these threads.......Maybe, they should QT!.......
 
mysterybox;889754 wrote: really? the fish store stated on their own thread that they do not QT most stuff......and all of a sudden there are numerous threads about CORALS dying, and fish dying........this has nothing to to do with me........read these threads.......Maybe, they should QT!.......
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Didn't seem to help your 2 wrasses.
 
I have bought a few fish from there and they are all alive and healthy. They do qt there fish just not the leopard wrasses. You think because you read a article that states he thinks the fish get jet lag that this is now proven and the only way to treat a fish. You buy from sea and are on your 3rd fish because they use the method that you believe is correct then why is your success rate so low? Many people believe not to qt delicate fish because there chance of survival is better in a display tank with quality water and sand. How do you know if you didn't qt that your other two wrasses they wouldn't still be alive? The fact is you don't and you will never know but a survival rate of 33% isn't a number that I would invest my time preaching your thread that has no scientific facts and bashing all stores that don't use your method.
 
SaltyVixen;889658 wrote: Its dead....
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Frustrating I know but it is gonna happen from time to time. Even some of us that have been at it for while still will loose some livestock.
 
I asked so that you could take it back to work out a solution with the store. Sorry for the trouble.
 
grouper therapy;889771 wrote: Frustrating I know but it is gonna happen from time to time. Even some of us that have been at it for while still will loose some livestock.
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OMG! what % died!
 
Fidofence;889765 wrote: I have bought a few fish from there and they are all alive and healthy. They do qt there fish just not the leopard wrasses. You think because you read a article that states he thinks the fish get jet lag that this is now proven and the only way to treat a fish. You buy from sea and are on your 3rd fish because they use the method that you believe is correct then why is your success rate so low? Many people believe not to qt delicate fish because there chance of survival is better in a display tank with quality water and sand. How do you know if you didn't qt that your other two wrasses they wouldn't still be alive? The fact is you don't and you will never know but a survival rate of 33% isn't a number that I would invest my time preaching your thread that has no scientific facts and bashing all stores that don't use your method.
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Thankyou
 
Been learning what fish not to buy or take it as a challenge to invest time and money, or should I said waste? Nah, I love the hobie and have to fight for every specimen I get in my tanks, propagate them, make them grow, still enjoy watching them growing, but makes me feel bad every time I lost some of them. No offense to any store or person I enjoy the community and I shop every store , i visit every store even when I have no money to buy me something (I think they hate me LOL!
 
Curtismaximus;889776 wrote: ARC drama... :doh: :stooges: :dunno: :crazy:
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Oh no you didn't :)
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Rskillz;889742 wrote: No, it's not OK. That why I said something. It's not just this thread, he does it all the time. We should support our sponsors, not tear them down. They work as hard as they can to provide the best they can. It's an unbelievably hard business to run, and the last thing any LFS needs is people bad mouthing them among their community without trying to resolve it behind closed doors.
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^^^^^^ ... + 1 on what Ryan stated above. Maintaining a reef store is by not means "a walk in the park on a sunny day". We need to support the sponsors and when we have a dissatisfied outcome of doing business with a reef store; the best solution is to handle [it behind closed doors] as Ryan has previously stated. If we [tear them down] is a lose / lose for everyone.

The sponsor loses as well as the purchaser. If the situation gets blown out of proportion and the sponsor loses potential customers and enough losses shuts the store down. I do not have a business background, but you want more sponsors then just a limited few. More competitive sponsors in an area will drive down the costs to the consumer. Start closing down some of the sponsors and you will see a direct reflection in the cost to you; the consumer.

Many years ago, I purchased a pack of 3 1/2 inch floppies for my computer. When I opened the package, 3 of the 10 disks were bad. I took the time to write the company and explained the situation; while most would have just probably threw the 3 disks away. The company contacted me and requested if I would send the 3 bad disks back to them. I agreed and they sent me a package with labels to send the floppy disks back to them at their expense.

About two weeks later, I received a nice "thank you" letter in the mail along with a brand new full package of floppy disks. Every floppy disk worked as advertised.


Wannabee
 
grouper therapy;889764 wrote: Didn't seem to help your 2 wrasses.
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Those are super rare sensitive wrasses

Kevin Kohen's knowledge as Director of Live Aquaria & Diver's Den is the best in the in industry.............HE RECOMMENDS 30 day QT feedings of 10 per fish, etc daily...


http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=425">http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=425</a>




actually, your ignorance is always welcome here.....


[IMG]http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21796374&postcount=2544">http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21796374&postcount=2544</a>


This guy has killed 20 Choati Wrasses, While our prez has one.....these are "beyond me".....


just read that thread.....

[B]Edit: Oops, that was directed at grouper....lol...[/B]

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mysterybox;889785 wrote: Those are super rare sensitive wrasses Mr. inbred....

Kevin Kohen's knowledge as Director of Live Aquaria & Diver's Den is the best in the in industry.............HE RECOMMENDS 30 day QT feedings of 10 per fish, etc daily...


http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=425">http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/general.cfm?general_pagesid=425</a>




actually, *** your ignorance is always welcome here.....


[IMG]http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21796374&postcount=2544">http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21796374&postcount=2544</a>


This guy has killed 20 Choati Wrasses, While our prez has one.....these are "beyond me".....


just read that thread.....

Edit: Oops, that was directed at grouper....lol...[/QUOTE]
OK this is my thrEAD ! Stop all this drama. It aint about anybody's fish but mine. Your comments hav completely derailed my thread and its disrepectful.

[QUOTE=][B]WannabeeaReefKeeper;889784 wrote:[/B] ^^^^^^ ... + 1 on what Ryan stated above. Maintaining a reef store is by not means "a walk in the park on a sunny day". We need to support the sponsors and when we have a dissatisfied outcome of doing business with a reef store; the best solution is to handle [it behind closed doors] as Ryan has previously stated. If we [tear them down] is a lose / lose for everyone.

The sponsor loses as well as the purchaser. If the situation gets blown out of proportion and the sponsor loses potential customers and enough losses shuts the store down. I do not have a business background, but you want more sponsors then just a limited few. More competitive sponsors in an area will drive down the costs to the consumer. Start closing down some of the sponsors and you will see a direct reflection in the cost to you; the consumer.

Many years ago, I purchased a pack of 3 1/2 inch floppies for my computer. When I opened the package, 3 of the 10 disks were bad. I took the time to write the company and explained the situation; while most would have just probably threw the 3 disks away. The company contacted me and requested if I would send the 3 bad disks back to them. I agreed and they sent me a package with labels to send the floppy disks back to them at their expense.

About two weeks later, I received a nice "thank you" letter in the mail along with a brand new full package of floppy disks. Every floppy disk worked as advertised.


Wannabee[/QUOTE]
I already said that wasnt my intent. Now i just feel worse.
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SaltyVixen;889789 wrote: OK this is my thrEAD ! Stop all this drama. It aint about anybody's fish but mine. Your comments hav completely derailed my thread and its disrepectful.


I already said that wasnt my intent. Now i just feel worse.
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I'm just just messy with grouper.... No worries.....we go back ........and forth......dont lose sleep over us....8-9 years taughting each other ......
 
SaltyVixen;889789 wrote: OK this is my thrEAD ! Stop all this drama. It aint about anybody's fish but mine. Your comments hav completely derailed my thread and its disrepectful.


I already said that wasnt my intent. Now i just feel worse.
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I already read where you stated this was not your intent. I posted here because of what others have stated. My post was not directed towards you in any way; please know that. I apologize to you that you feel worse. Truly, I felt that I needed to post here for others to understand that they shouldn't waste the effort of business practices of others. When this happens, we all lose.

I understand that you are new to this hobby and you are in the process of learning Reef Keeping. My whole intentions was for the others that have been in the hobby for a while now.


Wannabee
 
although, I do believe that each lfs and each aquarist should have a qt system, even then, it would not avoid all death.....

but it would avoid disease being passed from one fish to another in a display....

that being said, I shouldn't have used your thread as vehicle to make this point and get at grouper.

apologies......
 
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