Ok... it serious! I need help! Pls dont ignore

I have got to get to one of the meetings.Got to meet you guys. You are all some cool cats.:up::lol2:
 
How did you acclimate him?? most LFS run salinity at 1.020 , and if you run your salinity at 1.025 to 1.026 and did not drip acclimate it will kill him fast.

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grouper therapy;889771 wrote: Frustrating I know but it is gonna happen from time to time. Even some of us that have been at it for while still will loose some livestock.

+1 , I have lost several fish in the past for different reasons. and most was my fault. :up:
 
OKAY ladies & gents.

I will remind you all the following.

1 - If you have a problem with a LFS, please take it up with them directly.
2 - Enough of the name-calling & bickering back & forth
3 - If you can't understand #1 & #2, simply BE NICE!
 
I would definatly recommend QT'ing wrasses in PARTICULAR. None are born inland and are therefore not guaranteed to be free of pests and parasites. As a matter of fact I have had two people I trust tell me that there are high probabilities on wrasse(s) coming in to have parasites. Usually they dont always immediatly die from the parasite but rather later after everything seems to be just fine and dandy. Either way on top of the parasite issues they are very prone to being stressed to death from my understanding, be gentle, take it slow, give them less light during QT as to not stress them throwing them under intense lighting after they have been in a box in a bag without light for possibly up to two days or more in some cases..... I have lost two leopards, first I did not QT, it died at about 4-6 months a solo death with no other indicators of the other fish (he had a red belly from time to time) for which now I attribute his death to an enduring parasite. The other female leopard I had added a few days after seemed to not make it through the first two nights, day two swimming but doing a little of the topsy-turvy after acclimation. Day two rolled around and I never saw it again. Dont feel bad, expect the worst; especially with this species unfortunatly.

If you want your best shots:
A - if you cant keep corals yet dont bother trying a wrasse (you need super stable parameters)
B - QT and treat with an anti parasite med (the fish store) can probably recommend one (prazi?)
C - Buy a wrasse that has been in someones possession for a bit, most leopards will be fresh off the boat. When they do hit land they instantly go home with someone nearly 9/10.
 
To the OP. Like I said earlier deaths are gonna happen in this hobby no matter how hard you try. That said there are husbandry procedures that one can put into place to reduce the odds of loses taking place. The most important IME is to "Quarantine everything" both fish and corals. I think that responsibility lies in the one providing the permanent habitat, me and you. While I do appreciate what our sponsors or any LFS does in that regard prior to my accepting responsibility of the animal, they can not possibly guarantee that a fish is 100% healthy and will accept the habitat that you have prepared for them. Delicate species or not. Neither can you or I. Case and point, (not to be misconstrued as bickering or drama) Our ARC resident big Wrasse man has had tremendous success keeping delicate species of wrasses but even after receiving two of them from a very reputable conscientious sponsor who has a QT procedure in place, he still lost his Wrasse twice. Now they were labeled as being a delicate species by most in the hobby.If you could ask them I'm not sure they would agree .That is a term used IMO to express our ignorance of their needs. So lay aside any guilt you may have and understand there are NO GUARANTEES with live animals.
 
Again, thanks everyone for your concern, advice, and posts. I feel alot beter. However i wont be buying anything live for quite awhile now... Thanks :)
 
JDavid;889926 wrote: Wish I ha subscribed to this earlier

lol agreed, when you see at least 3 or more posts deleted you know you had a good one going...

Sorry to hear about your loss, but as everyone else has said, there are no guarantees when it comes to live animals. You can definitely do things to raise your success percentage, however, ultimately it just boils down to nature doing its thing.
 
ddaddy2420;890125 wrote: lol agreed, when you see at least 3 or more posts deleted you know you had a good one going...

Not really. Most of the time it's one person saying something and then 3-5 people quoting it to respond.
 
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