What is going on with my fish?

[jennm]

They may both be protozoans, but they aren't the same. In fact, Brooklynella is frequently, and fatally, mistaken for Cryptocaryon irritans (aka Marine Ich).

Ask anyone who has tried a traditional copper-based ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) treatment on fish with Brooklynella.

In fact, people tend to label everything as ich, and what works for one ailment, often won't work for another.

Jenn

 

[jimmystephens]

I agree. out of everyone on here i know ur the queen of disease and treatment . Ive read other posts u have helped people in. Thanks

 

[sewer urchin]

Hah ha... Jenn-The Queen of Disease. I think someone may have a new nickname

Edit: That being said, if I ever have a problem and all my fish start going belly up you will be one of the first people I'd call for help.

 

[jimmystephens]

Lol that didnt come out like i ment

 

[jennm]

That's the second time I've been called that :-/ Rather dubious distinction, IMO. I may start losing friends soon...

Just have many years of experience with it - I'm by no means an authority on it. Had my fair share of failures in diagnosing and treating, that's for sure.

Jenn

 

[mattyams]

Thanks for all the replies to my problem. I tested everything and my ammonia was high. Did a good water change. We will see what happens. I just find it weird that my damsels and inverts weren't affected. Are damsels like goldfish? Just won't die?

Anyways thanks again. Also is there anything else I should do?

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[rdnelson]

Damsels are very tough fish. That is why (and don't ever do this) the not so good LFS will tell people to put damsels in to cycle the tank. Puts them through the wringer but does provide an ammonia source to kick start the cycle. Just not very nice for the damsels.

 

[jamescook]

When ph is high, ammonia is very toxic. Anytime a clown is sick, folks say Brook. Most times the sickness is caused by poor water conditions. I just had to move my jawfish to a different system, and one day after they started digging the nitrates were off the chart. It doesn't take much to upset the balance. Always get a second opinion too, because those test kits are known to go bad.

 

[jennm]

I'd be trying to figure out what caused the spike... I take it the bodies were removed promptly?

What size tank, etc?

Yes, damsels are tough - they are subject to stress too, but they can tolerate a lot (not that they should, as Rich explained). Clowns are damsels too... so it's still a bit odd that some died, and some didn't.

But yes, the source of the ammonia would be of concern. What brand of test kit are you using, and what reading did you get?

Jenn

 

[mattyams]

JennM;831541 wrote: I'd be trying to figure out what caused the spike... I take it the bodies were removed promptly?

What size tank, etc?

Yes, damsels are tough - they are subject to stress too, but they can tolerate a lot (not that they should, as Rich explained). Clowns are damsels too... so it's still a bit odd that some died, and some didn't.

But yes, the source of the ammonia would be of concern. What brand of test kit are you using, and what reading did you get?

Jenn

The deceased were removed. I noticed the day before that I was missing one damsel but I could not locate the body. Guessing that the starfish or shrimp got em. So that might be a possibility for the ammonia. The tank is a 30 gallon long, about 35lbs live rock, now two hob filters with carbon and filter floss. And that's about it.

I can only afford the API saltwater kit. I also have the calcium test as well. PH was at 8.0. Ammonia looked like 1.0. Nitrate and nitrite both at 0.

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[jennm]

Hmm... might be cause, might be effect. If possible, have your water checked (at LFS or another member's) with a different kit. API is notorious for a 0.25 false positive, but 1 is either a big sign of trouble, or the reagent is really bad...

One damsel body shouldn't foul the water that much, IMO... so that also begs the question of what killed the first damsel.

 

[jimmystephens]

This might be dumb but have u checked the temp or heater. I heardbof another members heater leaking in tank amd killed fish. Just trying to think of stuff

 

[mattyams]

Temp is good and the heater seems to be working fine.

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[jimmystephens]

Marine designs will do a full water test with a good test kit for $20 i belive might be worth a 2nd op.

 

[mattyams]

Ok so I lost a damsel now. And one of the others has one cloudy eye. Whatcha think?

 

[cedzaquaddiction]

Are they in QT? If so, check the parameters daily. You'd be surprised how quickly ammonia can spike in QT. Especially with a small tank.

 

[jennm]

Cloudy eye can be one of several things. Trematodes, infection... got pictures?

 

[mattyams]

JennM;832664 wrote: Cloudy eye can be one of several things. Trematodes, infection... got pictures?

I went to snap pictures this morning and the cloudy eye is gone. I'm so confused. Lol