on the positive note, my orange octospawn is doing well. however, one of my aussie acros from one of the vendors has RTN
What's Your Experience at the Expo and What Did You Score?
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Raz09__
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that's the one
First, I apologize to you Rit, my intent was not to lay blame on you. Yesterday evening I was pretty beat and what I was trying to say came out wrong. For that I am sorry.
If everyone will take just a moment and look back at my comments you will notice they are number. The comment in question was number 6 on the list I think. That should show you that I don't think any ONE item is to blame. What I was trying to do was show all of the factors that MAY have contributed. In this case, maybe my frustration got the better of me and for that I am sorry. Rit is a great sponsor and as I said in the post in question, I will continue to promote him and all our sponsors.
As for what our prior administrations may have done to upset you Rit, I am sorry for that as well. I would like an opportunity to correct any wrong doing if I can. My work schedule is crazy lately and getting away on a weekend to make the trip over will be difficult at best. But maybe one evening next week I can come see you and we can chat. Don't let me forget about it.
So again, I am sorry if I made Rit or anyone else feel singled out. I was only attempting to answer the question that were asked in this thread by listing the POSSIBLE contributing factors and I didn't do a very good job of it.
Rich
Did you guys know that I'm a homebrewer?
I'm about to start up a batch of IPA and a Belgian Wit this week, ETA: 30 days. Maybe I should host a get-together sometime, talk about burr and riffs.
I'm about to start up a batch of IPA and a Belgian Wit this week, ETA: 30 days. Maybe I should host a get-together sometime, talk about burr and riffs.
I've not read the comments here nor will I since I personally have not been present at the last two years events. However I have made it to the last two Macna's and both Reefapolooza's Orlando.
My feelings are such, large scale specific frag traders events are only successful in small limited option venues. As people go to them thinking they will have all the ultra Uber dober LE crazy never before seen stuff. In a Market like Alabama I'm sure everything that was brought was just that to most of those people. To us from Atlanta, you'd have to collect specifically for yesrs just to get one eyebrow to raise. For what can you hope to see that you haven't within our laundry list of incredible sponsors? Between Rit, Pure Reef, The Fish Store, Avarium, Reef Shac, Little Nemo.... all commonly strong hobbyist at core bringing in and collecting routinely some of the best and most coveted animals. Its this that is missing elsewhere, our sponsors that almost any city would die to have just one supplying them and we havw them all.
In the raw basic sense, we are spoiled rotten. Plain and simple! Thanks truly to our sponsors.
This is a statement of everywhere I've been and I travel a lot.
Last, the fundementally reason I go to Macna's and Reefapolooza's is not for coral like said above. But for that first look at the new and exciting equipment, systems and products. The one on one I have the opportunity with those owners and select staff.
With this, I'm not sure the turn out gets better at these things really, maybe I'm wrong. Who knows....
I'll agree with the one comment I did read, the name is fundementally terrible.
My feelings are such, large scale specific frag traders events are only successful in small limited option venues. As people go to them thinking they will have all the ultra Uber dober LE crazy never before seen stuff. In a Market like Alabama I'm sure everything that was brought was just that to most of those people. To us from Atlanta, you'd have to collect specifically for yesrs just to get one eyebrow to raise. For what can you hope to see that you haven't within our laundry list of incredible sponsors? Between Rit, Pure Reef, The Fish Store, Avarium, Reef Shac, Little Nemo.... all commonly strong hobbyist at core bringing in and collecting routinely some of the best and most coveted animals. Its this that is missing elsewhere, our sponsors that almost any city would die to have just one supplying them and we havw them all.
In the raw basic sense, we are spoiled rotten. Plain and simple!
Thanks truly to our sponsors. This is a statement of everywhere I've been and I travel a lot.
Last, the fundementally reason I go to Macna's and Reefapolooza's is not for coral like said above. But for that first look at the new and exciting equipment, systems and products. The one on one I have the opportunity with those owners and select staff.
With this, I'm not sure the turn out gets better at these things really, maybe I'm wrong. Who knows....
I'll agree with the one comment I did read, the name is fundementally terrible.
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DawgFace;1033725 wrote: I've not read the comments here nor will I since I personally have not been present at the last two years events. However I have made it to the last two Macna's and both Reefapolooza's Orlando.
My feelings are such, large scale specific frag traders events are only successful in small limited option venues. As people go to them thinking they will have all the ultra Uber dober LE crazy never before seen stuff. In a Market like Alabama I'm sure everything that was brought was just that to most of those people. To us from Atlanta, you'd have to collect specifically for yesrs just to get one eyebrow to raise. For what can you hope to see that you haven't within our laundry list of incredible sponsors? Between Rit, Pure Reef, The Fish Store, Avarium, Reef Shac, Little Nemo.... all commonly strong hobbyist at core bringing in and collecting routinely some of the best and most coveted animals. Its this that is missing elsewhere, our sponsors that almost any city would die to have just one supplying them and we havw them all.
In the raw basic sense, we are spoiled rotten. Plain and simple!
This is a statement of everywhere I've been and I travel a lot.
Last, the fundementally reason I go to Macna's and Reefapolooza's is not for coral like said above. But for that first look at the new and exciting equipment, systems and products. The one on one I have the opportunity with those owners and select staff.
With this, I'm not sure the turn out gets better at these things really, maybe I'm wrong. Who knows....
I'll agree with the one comment I did read, the name is fundementally terrible.
Great point
Oh and thank you to the BOD and all the volunteers that made this happen and continue to make this club available to us!
My post above did not and should not distract from that fact nor distant my personal gratitude and respect to the commitment you all give of which the end results in my own personal enjoyment. Mainly I wanted to extend my feelings towards something that I felt could be a contributing factor towards attendance. Essentially summarized to the extent of, don't beat yourselves up to much. I personally don't believe it was for lack of effort.
Last, while I know the need to change the date of these events make sense due to the BOD terms. I heard something from one of you that I really liked. Which was increasing the term limits to 2 years. Not only would that allow better long term solutions to a vast many problems facing the club. Largely a relative period of understanding the problems with enough time left over to fix them. But also could and should allow the swaps to be generally brought back towards the "tax refund" time frame. Which I think contributes to alot more turn out then we give credit towards. If nothing else, adjust the changes in administrations to end relative to a low period in both directions of the incoming and outgoing BOD, July maybe?
All in all I trust you guys have a great handle on these things so I'll leave it at that.
Again, thank you for all that you do!
My post above did not and should not distract from that fact nor distant my personal gratitude and respect to the commitment you all give of which the end results in my own personal enjoyment. Mainly I wanted to extend my feelings towards something that I felt could be a contributing factor towards attendance. Essentially summarized to the extent of, don't beat yourselves up to much. I personally don't believe it was for lack of effort.
Last, while I know the need to change the date of these events make sense due to the BOD terms. I heard something from one of you that I really liked. Which was increasing the term limits to 2 years. Not only would that allow better long term solutions to a vast many problems facing the club. Largely a relative period of understanding the problems with enough time left over to fix them. But also could and should allow the swaps to be generally brought back towards the "tax refund" time frame. Which I think contributes to alot more turn out then we give credit towards. If nothing else, adjust the changes in administrations to end relative to a low period in both directions of the incoming and outgoing BOD, July maybe?
All in all I trust you guys have a great handle on these things so I'll leave it at that.
Again, thank you for all that you do!
I suggest we go old school. Just like past frag events before the expo. Fragging demo followed by free frag give aways. I do not remember much complaining back then. Also invite non commercial members and ARC sponsors only to participate with booths. If Steve Tyree wants to do a seperate visit with coral vendors at his preferred location and time so be it. I am sure he would invite the club to participate and welcome promotion of the event along with the club. We use to draw 4-500 people to such event.
yeah, we could have separate sections for trade/cash/free, etc...
term limits for 2yrs is not bad as long as there is still a vote every year to get anyone out that members want out
I def think we should have the frag demo and giveaway. that is what drew a ton of folks, kids, newbies, etc. The speakers are/were great... but not what a ton of people are looking for for this kind of thing and the cost could be used towards the frag demo/coral?
term limits for 2yrs is not bad as long as there is still a vote every year to get anyone out that members want out
I def think we should have the frag demo and giveaway. that is what drew a ton of folks, kids, newbies, etc. The speakers are/were great... but not what a ton of people are looking for for this kind of thing and the cost could be used towards the frag demo/coral?
Why stop there? I used both....
funny thing is you think i am joking. (all joking aside i used dr tim's so ammonia spiked to .1, and nitrite has been hanging around .25 for 3 days, 5ppm nitrate)
This is even worse.... my lighting and mp40s dont arrive til friday. goni and alveopora are in the sump with a 5000k light
