1,000 gallon all in one build

[seth the wine guy]

That's SICK! Just SICK! Glad to see someone setting the bar so high. Tank unveiling party at your house?

 

[grouper therapy]

Oz;587983 wrote: Very Cool D. No skimmer? - using constant water changes? I think you mentioned that before.

No skimmer for organic removal I will have a ozone reaction chamber.
The surge device will shut down after lights out. Then ato kicks on for very brief period after that an auto water change will takes place of around 15 gallons.

 

[lilrobb]

No skimmer is gonna be BIG - just read a German article about the latest technic overseas making skimmers essentially obsolete. Big $$$ though.

Anything needed - don't forget to holler, Dave!

 

[oz]

Very cool. 450g water changes per month? $80+mo in salt alone. Guess that's a year or 4 in skimmer cost depending on model!

 

[grouper therapy]

The actual operating cost of a skimmer versus the cost of additional salt and the results of not using one on my present system was what prompted me to try no skimmer . So how much salt do you use with a skimmer? That would help determine the actual difference in cost as well.

 

[grouper therapy]

LilRobb;587997 wrote: No skimmer is gonna be BIG - just read a German article about the latest technic overseas making skimmers essentially obsolete. Big $$$ though.

Anything needed - don't forget to holler, Dave!

Could you shoot me a link to that article?

 

[oz]

grouper therapy;588048 wrote: The actual operating cost of a skimmer versus the cost of additional salt and the results of not using one on my present system was what prompted me to try no skimmer . So how much salt do you use with a skimmer? That would help determine the actual difference in cost as well.

Yeah. Hard to quantify. For me, using a good skimmer seems to take crap out of the water quickly so I can go longer between WC's. I'm seeing great PE and growth this year so far. You'll be replacing trace elements constantly which is pretty cool. I'm looking forward to your build.

 

[grouper therapy]

Yeah. Hard to quantify. For me, using a good skimmer seems to take crap out of the water quickly so I can go longer between WC's. I'm seeing great PE and growth this year so far. You'll be replacing trace elements constantly which is pretty cool. I'm looking forward to your build.[/QUOT
How often and how much do you change out?

 

[oz]

800g system and doing 100g WC's every month right now. May extend that out 2-4weeks.

 

[grouper therapy]

Oz;588189 wrote: 800g system and doing 100g WC's every month right now. May extend that out 2-4weeks.

Got it I actually figured on a 150 to 200 gallon wc if I did run a skimmer. I have a tendecency to run a high bioload as compared to your medium? bioload.
I also think that by doing a conventional water change(15 out then 15 in) versus a continuous water change (15 in while 15 out) I will not loose as much effectiveness.

 

[oz]

400g display 30+ fish and feed at least twice a day. Not really sure where that would fall in the "load" chart. If i could do my basement over again, I'd have a much larger microalgae tank to assist with nutrient consumption. What are your plans?

 

[grouper therapy]

Pretty much the fish I have with a couple of additions I have around 26 fish with 9 tangs in 300 total volume,so I should be a close to you once they are transferred.

 

[grouper therapy]

Hey Chris what lighting did you settle on?

 

[grouper therapy]

http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=IE&user_tunzeprod_pi1">http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=IE&user_tunzeprod_pi1</a>[predid]=-infoxunter019
Thinking of one of these if I can get the cost down.

 

[grouper therapy]

grouper therapy;588199 wrote: http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=IE&user_tunzeprod_pi1">http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=IE&user_tunzeprod_pi1</a>[predid]=-infoxunter019
Thinking of one of these if I can get the cost down.[/QUOTE]

Sorry click on the tunze mainstream pump

 

[oz]

I tried 3x400's and could get the PAR and no light column effect so I went with 2x1000 in the lumenmax large reflectors. Thought about 4 x 400's but 2x1000's worked better for me. Great PAR, great light spread, and I can keep the lightrack pretty high off the water for easy access and hot air displacement.

 

[grouper therapy]

Oz;588201 wrote: I tried 3x400's and could get the PAR and no light column effect so I went with 2x1000 in the lumenmax large reflectors. Thought about 4 x 400's but 2x1000's worked better for me. Great PAR, great light spread, and I can keep the lightrack pretty high off the water for easy access and hot air displacement.

which ballast/bulb combo?

 

[oz]

Hamilton + Helios 20Ks (and VHO's on the front and back of the rack for dawn/dusk)

 

[grouper therapy]

Oz;588203 wrote: Hamilton + Helios 20Ks (and VHO's on the front and back of the rack for dawn/dusk)

electronic I presume dimmable?

 

[grouper therapy]

maybe this link to the Tunze that I am considering will workhttp://reefbuilders.com/2010/05/12/tunze-turbelle-masterstream-pumps-hit-interzoo-2010/